One-on-One with Chafee: The Exit Interview

Tuesday, November 18, 2014

 

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RI Governor Lincoln Chafee -- as well as others -- reflect on his administration.

In less than two months, Lincoln Chafee will complete his four-year term as Governor. By any measure, Chafee has been one of the most successful politicians in Rhode Island history. He served as Governor, United States Senator, Mayor of Warwick, City Councilman in Warwick and Delegate to the Constitutional Convention

Uniquely, Chafee was elected in a non-partisan election, as a Republican, and an Independent and finished his career declaring he was a Democrat. In a one-on-one interview with GoLocal, Chafee said he believed he was leaving the state heading in the "right direction' -- but reaction to the performance of the state's 74th Governor has been mixed.  

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When asked what his greatest achievement was in in office, Chafee said, "In general, just getting the state -- what I call the 'ship of state' -- off the rocks, and going in the right direction. There's been a lot of negativity, but the facts are stubborn -- and the facts are favorable."

Chafee was referring to the latest employment metrics released by the RI Department of Labor and Training, which cites, among other statistics, that the September RI unemployment rate of 7.6% is at its lowest level since June 2008 -- and with the number of employed up 14,300 since the beginning of the year, it marks the best start in that category since 1984.  

Despite the positive numbers, Brookings Institution Vice President and Director of Governance Studies Darrell West pointed to the lag time in any recovery as an issue to Rhode Islanders -- and how Chafee is perceived after leaving office.  

"Chafee's biggest challenge has been the economy. Rhode Island always is the first into recession and the last to come out, and this continues to be the case. The state’s economy has been slow to revive and lags the national recovery," said West.  "It is hard to know what he could do to create jobs and lower the unemployment rate, but the fact that it remains stubbornly high has fueled discontent and made it difficult for people to feel good about the state’s direction."

Then and Now

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Chafee telling the press corps at the DMV, in September 2013, that he would not be seeking re-election.

"When I came in, [there was] high unemployment, a lot of foreclosures, labor unrest, especially in Central Falls with teachers.  I came in, got people back to work.  A lot of Governors talk about creating 20,00 jobs - we've done it," said Chafee.  

Regarding his successor, Rhode Island's first ever female Governor Gina Raimondo, Chafee thinks the scenario facing the next administration will be "very different." 

"When I came in the economy was so bad, Rhode Islanders were stressed, angry about everything -- understandably so, trying to make ends meet.  [It was] natural to want to vent," said Chafee.  "Issues that ultimately make sense -- getting in state-tuition for undocumented students -- ultimately made sense, but it created an outlet for a lot of anger and venting.  And Jason Pleau -- Rhode Islanders have continued to oppose to the death penalty.  The RI economy is slowly warming.  I just think it will be a different environment."

Former head of Common Cause RI -- and noted historian -- Phil West was one of the political commentators who spoke with GoLocal about the Chafee administration's highs -- and lows.  

"I deeply appreciated his commitment to equal marriage. People who claimed to speak in the name of God were vitriolic in legislative hearings I attended," said West, of marriage equality legislation passing in 2013, and being signed into law by Chafee -- who penned an opinion piece for the New York Times on the landmark occasion.  "Without a courageous governor and core of committed legislators, this overdue reform could not have passed."

"Historians may see his commitment to genuine pension reform as equally crucial," continued West.  "No state treasurer could have secured passage of the 2011 pension overhaul without the governor’s support."

Larry Purtill with National Education Association of Rhode Island addressed Chafee's role in the education community during his four years.

"While many probably wouldn’t see his administration being all that successful, based on latest polls, especially in terms of jobs and growth, I do think he tried and got at least some promoting the benefits of Rhode Island and living here," said NEARI President Purtill.  "Initially anyway, he pushed for the Department of Education to work with teachers, administrators and others to move public education forward but never addressed the fact that the overwhelming majority (based on the poll we did over a year and a half ago with the AFT) of teachers believed their views and insights were often ignored by RIDE and it was up to the General Assembly to correct the NECAP situation and teacher evaluation."

A recent RIDE report showed that 98 percent of teachers and 99 percent of school leaders (building administrators) attained ratings of effective or highly effective.

20/20 Hindsight

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When asked if he had any regrets, Chafee mentioned one instance that he wished had turned out differently.

"I tend to look forward.  When people ask me that question, I always struggle because I just move on," said Chafee.  "If there's one thing I wish I had accomplished, it was to get Lifespan-Care New England to work together.  I had them all here -- board chairs, presidents, Dr. [Michael] Fine, [Attorney General] Kilmartin, the department directors.  I said come on, let's work together here.  You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.  I had them at the trough -- but they would not drink."

"It's so important to the economy for these entities to work together and not against each other," continued Chafee.  "I worked as hard as I could, I don't have regrets, but I wish there was success." 

Political and community leaders, including Jim Vincent with the NAACP, offered their views as to where the Chafee administration fell short.  

"Ironically, I feel the governor's biggest failure was not hiring individuals of color to high ranking positions and not increasing the number of Minority Enterprise Businesses "MBEs" doing work with state government. The number of individuals of color in his cabinet, one, is the lowest number in recent memory," said  Vincent, who noted that in his view, the most important accomplishment by Governor Chafee was the Executive Order on Diversity and Inclusion which he sgned last year.

"To my knowledge, there have been no judges of color appointed. The number of individuals of color appointed to boards and commissions was very low and not reflective of the state's population," continued Vincent.  "The number of MBEs doing business with the state which has always been a fraction of the number of businesses available to do state work remains virtually unchanged despite an increase of such businesses."

Mike Stenhouse with the RI Center for Freedom and Prosperity pointed out that despite any gains made, Rhode Island continues to rank at the bottom of business environment rankings.  

"Jobs and the economy," said Stenhouse of where he saw Chafee as coming up short.  "The state's relative near-bottom of the barrel rankings as compared with other states has not improved to any major degree as the drag of increased spending levels and associated taxes continue to harm our economy." 

To the Finish Line

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74 and 75 -- Chafee and Raimondo.

Chafee noted some of the remaining items of business on his list to complete in the remaining weeks of his administration.  

"[The] Central Coventry fire district -- we're trying to get that resolved, not hand off that ongoing deficit situation to the next governor," said Chafee.  "Constantly working on wait times at DMV.  We can address wait times there with creative action and we're doing that, working with unions to have part timers come in.  RI Housing, continuing to work with HUD -- and to some extent DCYF -- there's been some cost overruns.  Those are four, there are certainly others."

As Chafee finishes his term and Raimondo prepares in the wings, NEARI's Purtill weighed in on the changing of the guard.  

"One thing that is important and a credit to both the Governor and Governor-elect is the outreach and apparent effort to get some things done and a smooth transition come January," said Purtill. 

Editor's Note:  GoLocal contributor Kate Nagle served as a staff member for Chafee in the U.S. Senate from 2001 to 2005. 

 

Related Slideshow: Grading the Chafee Administration

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Darrell West

Vice President and Director of Governance Studies, Brookings Institution 

Chafee Grade:  A for honesty,  B for fiscal reform, C for economic performance.

Administration wins: Governor Chafee’s best accomplishment was pushing the marriage equality bill into law. That is a signature achievement that forced him to overcome several high-profile opponents. In a small state that remains fairly conservative on social issues, that was a big step forward. Future generations will see that as a great demonstration of leadership on his part. Another landmark bill was the public pension reform. Working with other state leaders, he encouraged people to tackle the long term funding problems associated with state employees and helped the General Assembly adopt a landmark bill. It will save the state millions of dollars down the road and help put the state on a more sustainable path. He also deserves credit for running a very honest administration that did not engage in the corruption we have seen in the past.

Administration losses: His biggest challenge has been the economy. Rhode Island always is the first into recession and the last to come out, and this continues to be the case. The state’s economy has been slow to revive and lags the national recovery.  It is hard to know what he could do to create jobs and lower the unemployment rate, but the fact that it remains stubbornly high has fueled discontent and made it difficult for people to feel good about the state’s direction.

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Laurie White

President, Greater Providence Chamber of Commerce

Chafee Grade:   B.  Leading in today’s polarizing environment is not easy and we should thank those who step up to the plate with the best of intentions.

Administration wins: Successfully shepherding the Shared Nursing Education Facility at South Street Landing, thus setting the stage for significant knowledge economy investment in the region. This was a huge accomplishment, and we extend our congratulations.

Administration losses: It was unfortunate that the early days of his administration were rocky with sales tax proposals and litigation around 38 Studios which had the practical effect of dampening economic development activity. Relations improved substantially in the final years.

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M. Teresa Paiva Weed

Senate President, Rhode Island General Assembly

Chafee Grade:  N/A

Administration wins: I will leave it to others to assign grades, but will say that it has been a privilege to work with Governor Chafee. He prioritized investment in education and workforce development, which will better prepare Rhode Island students and workers for the jobs of a modern economy. He emphasized regulatory reform and customer service, helping to change the culture at state agencies such as the Department of Environmental Management and the Division of Motor Vehicles. His strong environmental stewardship carries on the tradition of his father, and will leave a lasting legacy for generations of Rhode Islanders. He was never afraid to stand on principle, regardless of whether it was the politically opportune thing to do. He is upstanding and honest, and it was an honor to have served alongside him in government.

Administration losses: 

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Victor Profughi

Adjunct Professor of Political Science, URI

Chafee Grade:  D-

Administration wins: He has to be given some of the credit for the pension overhaul.

Administration losses: Unfortunately Lincoln Chafee has considerable difficulty stating clearly and succinctly what he wishes to say and seems to be overly successful in sticking his foot in his mouth.  In addition, he gave the appearance of catering too much to “progressive” notions, and seemed almost totally incapable of working with the legislative leadership.

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Mike Stenhouse

CEO, Rhode Island Center for Freedom and Prosperity

Chafee Grade:  F 

Administration wins: Not blocking the recent corporate and estate tax reforms. 

Administration losses: Jobs and the economy.  The state's relative near-bottom of the barrel rankings as compared with other states has not improved to any degree as the drag of increased spending levels and associated taxes continue to harm the economy. 

Mr. Chafee apparently believes that low and moderate income families are better off surviving under public assistance programs, than they would thriving in a growth economy -- our center disagrees and believes that every family can enhance their quality of life if we can only get oppressive spend-and-tax policies out of way of our people and business. 

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Pam Gencarella

OSTPA, a "Voice for the Taxpayers of Rhode Island"

Chafee Grade:  N/A

Administration wins:

Administration losses: Governor Chafee duped RI citizens when he said "Trust Chafee". His political perspective and his actions reveal a disconnect between claiming to take proactive steps to improve RI's economic rankings while supporting his true progressive agenda laid out in his RhodeMapRI plan. The progressive vision aims to equalize disparities in income and housing under the guise of an economic development plan. Scary stuff. Chafee is leaving office without a solid economic plan, no jobs plan, persistently high taxes that squash the middle class and oppressive business regulations.The big question is how does Governor-elect Raimondo see it?  Does she buy into this vision for RI?  If so, it was certainly not a vision that was discussed on the campaign trail.  

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Larry Purtill

President, National Education Association Rhode Island

Chafee Grade:  ​N/A.  I hate to give ratings since he is leaving office and won’t have an opportunity to fix some of the major problems we still have and hopefully the new Governor can.

Administration wins:  While many probably wouldn’t see his administration being all that successful, based on latest polls, especially in terms of jobs and growth, I do think he tried and got at least some promoting the benefits of Rhode Island and living here. Initially anyway, he pushed for the Department of Education to work with teachers, administrators and others to move public education forward but never addressed the fact that the overwhelming majority (based on the poll we did over a year and a half ago with the AFT) of teachers believed their views and insights were often ignored by RIDE and it was up to the General Assembly to correct the NECAP situation and teacher evaluation. From a personal viewpoint, he appointed me to the Board of Education which gave educators another voice there and that was and is important.

Administration losses: 

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Phil West

Historian and former Executive Director, Common Cause RI

Chafee Grade:  C+

Administration wins:  I deeply appreciated his commitment to equal marriage. People who claimed to speak in the name of God were vitriolic in legislative hearings I attended. Without a courageous governor and core of committed legislators, this overdue reform could not have passed.  Historians may see his commitment to genuine pension reform as equally crucial. No state treasurer could have secured passage of the 2011 pension overhaul without the governor’s support. 

Administration losses:  I see him as an honest person and an ethical governor, but he failed to spend political capital in two key areas. 

First, he should have pressed obstinate Senate leaders to let voters consider a constitutional amendment to bring the General Assembly back under the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. Now that Chafee's term has passed and voters have turned down a constitutional convention, lawmakers remain immune to prosecution even for blatant corruption. 

Second, Gov. Chafee should have insisted that the Department of Children, Youth, and Families (DCYF) obtain accreditation. A law enacted in 2010 required DCYF to start work with the Council on Accreditation (COA) in 2011. The Chafee administration launched that process with a preliminary review (2012 report attached) but failed to follow through. As a result, vulnerable children suffer further abuses while in state custody. Thousands grow up feeling that no one sees or cares, and families (including both birth parents and foster parents) lack reliable support services. Professional accreditation raises the bar for universities, hospitals, police departments, and child protection agencies in other states. Why not Rhode Island?

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Bob Healey

Lawyer and RI Moderate Part gubernatorial candidate,

Chafee Grade:  D. I usually avoid kicking a person when he is down, but I did give him that during the campaign.

Administration wins: I do not know the inside story, but I was at least interested with the break up with Bob Walsh after the NEA got him elected.  This could be the greatest accomplishment or downfall, but without the inside story, I cannot tell which is which.  I was also very skeptical of the "Trust Chafee" campaign promise.  

Administration losses: His manner of governing is more suited to legislative rather than executive functions, and, as such, he couldn't approach the situation from a point that was required.  He is a personable guy, just not suited for executive functions. Anyone can be Governor, it takes much more to be a good Governor and stay responsive to the people. It is ironic in a way that he once called me and the Cool Moose Party a party of one.  

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June Speakman

Professor of Political Science, Roger Williams University

Chafee Grade:  N/A

Administration wins:  I can say that a couple of his positives were to move the state away from the Studio 38 climate of insider politics, to work with Gen Treasurer Raimondo on the very difficult task of pension reform (whether or not one liked the result, at least they stopped kicking the can down the road), and his sensitivity to the needs of the municipalities.  As a former mayor, the Governor checked in frequently with local mayors and town administrators to get a sense of their needs and how to address them.   The clean air and water bond that was just approved by the voters was largely his initiative and an important legacy.  He also worked hard to diversify appointments to boards and commissions.

Administration losses: 

 
 

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